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| Do you think film
has been homogenized in America? |
| Yes, nearly every movie I see is made
in the same style |
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25% |
[ 2 ] |
| No, movies I see vary in architecture
and I find something new almost all the time |
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75% |
[ 6 ] |
| I do not care |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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golden
double sprigs
Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Posts: 3
Location: Austin, TX
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Posted:
Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:39 pm
Post subject: Varying Views of Hollywood |
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Hollywood is a name that
figures prominently into the film opinions and theories of
every movie buff. The term is heard and used everywhere. So
the question is, "are you Anti-Hollywood?" And if so: "what
does Hollywood represent
to you?" I am going to shout out my beliefs.
I am Anti-Hollywood. For me, Hollywood is the style most movies
use in the States as well as the foreign industries that have
succumbed to the method which I call "guideline filmmaking".
Most people think of the money aspect of the American film
industry as Hollywood: millions of dollars, glamorous stars,
epic productions and commercials. Unfortunatly I cannot put
my finger on the specifics of the Hollywood style I am so
opposed to, but I do get a feeling [as does everyone] when
watching a movie and I decide for myself whether or not it
appears Hollywoodish. For example, I recently saw The
Passion of The Christ and thought it was very Hollywood.
I was hoping for something different, something uniquely spiritual,
but the film was pieced together the way anyother movie would
be. My reasoning does not matter. However, if you would like
to have a chat about it send me a PM and we can discuss the
film.
Back to the topic. I am not saying Hollywood makes movies
the "wrong way" and that there is "one correct way" to make
a film. I am a supporter of diversity at all costs. Hollywood
needs to stay. What needs to go is the monopoly. I am aware
of many organizations and festivals and programs helping independent
filmmakers with the movie making process which can be very
stressful and dissapointing. I don't have any definite answers
either. My goal is to ignite a film movement unlike anyother
with the mission of establishing a universal respect not only
for personal filmmaking but also for the language of cinema.
Right now, the movies with the most success are shallow Hollywood
productions distributed to make money. Hollywood does not
make art; they make money. This is not a new concept, but
one that very few people take seriously; I am one who does.
Recently I was motivated strongly enough to compile all my
ideas into an Anti-Hollywood manifesto that you might be interested
in reading; PM me if you want to see it. I just think that
cinema needs to be treated personally for image artists to
create personal films and for the diversity of mankind to
be cherished on all levels through the medium of film.
This is a great website to discuss film in a mature and individual
way. What is your take on Hollywood?
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Digigenic
Joined: 27 Feb 2004
Posts: 44
Location: TX
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Posted:
Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:45 pm
Post subject: The Sheep Must Decide… |
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Welcome GDS,
It’s no surprise to see a fellow Texan announcing support
for an indie insurgency against the monopolization of the
film industry …you're in good company
However, without being too critical of your concepts, I feel
compelled to direct an opposing observation towards the conflicting
ideologies of the film movement you’ve envisioned.
Ok, If one were inclined to ignite such a movement of universal
proportions, wouldn’t they also be inclined to maintain it?
And if so, when the current monopoly has ended and/or is divided,
and your goal to establish a “universal” movement for filmmaking
is successfully implemented, wouldn’t it eventually lead to
another monopoly?
I’m an artist/filmmaker, and I believe that creating an open
environment for any art form or expression is an admirable
cause, but principles of uniformity can't be applied to an
artistic revolution. How can you expect artists, who in nature
are generally opposed to the establishment to rise up and
create another establishment?
If one were destined to start a revolution, I believe that
the decision to incite uprising within the film industry depends
more on the sheep, the general audience, than the Shepard,
the filmmaker. It’s a numbers game, it’s critical to have
the general audience on your side, and so far, the indie community
doesn’t have that kind of momentum to start a revolution.
I don't know if the general audience will ever feel compelled
to make change? Most of the people who make up the general
audience don't bother to differentiate between an artist at
work, and an opportunist behind a camera. And they tend to
only show interest when their favorite actor or actress is
staring in it, most often captivated by the way the images
rush, shoot, dance, and hump its' way into their hearts. It's
an unfortunate set of circumstances, but that's the way it
goes.
As much as I’d like to agree with the notion that a revolution
within the film industry will improve circumstances for artists,
I also understand that the notion isn’t feasible unless there
is overwhelming support from the general audience to assist
in this revolution. But when you have that kind of support,
you basically have a monopoly, so it's a damned if you do,
damned if you don't scenario.
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golden
double sprigs
Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Posts: 3
Location: Austin, TX
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Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:39 pm
Post subject: Good points, but what next? |
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Well, Digigenic you say
something very true. I agree with it all. I know what I say
is a dream. The best outcome would be to broaden the independent
opportunities. A big help would be to maintain more art theatres
to make films more available. Though this alone would not
provide the support needed for a movement because . . .
. . . "the sheep must decide" . . . I agree with you on that
all the way. It never fully occured to me that the only effective
way is to target the audience; the fodder for the film industry.
And like you say, that change seems unlikely.
Maybe the characteristics of independent filmmaking that make
it so special is that it is independent; free from an industry
and free from the major crowds. If this is true, I sure wish
a film career was a whole lot easier.
And the independent film scene does not offer the security
Hollywood does. I guess the best thing is to just make personal
films the way you want them to be and do as much as you can
to support festivals and societies. What else can you do?
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Digigenic
Joined: 27 Feb 2004
Posts: 44
Location: TX
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Posted:
Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:02 am
Post subject: Keep the dream alive, herd those damn
sheep! |
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GDS,
Regardless of what I or anyone else say, you must keep your
dream alive. I wish that when I was your age I had been as
committed to the craft as you are. I was always pretty stubborn.
I'm still stubborn actually. But, in spite of my stubbornness,
I understand that it’s still important to dream, no matter
how far-fetched it may seem. As my good friend always says,
“The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of
their dreams”.
So do you intend to further your studies in film? Being in
Austin, you have the opportunity to crash UT and their Burnt
Orange Film Program, the first and only program of its kind.
I’m considering a transfer to UT, but I must first pull up
my GPA, haha. I also don’t want to pigeon hole myself into
one field, film is a risky business, and I certainly wouldn’t
feel safe with it being the only crown of knowledge on my
head.
Anyhow, on the subject of making personal films, it reminds
me of an online conversation I had with Dale Launer on Ebay
during a fraudulent auction for a Panasonic AG-DVX100. We
started talking about the camera and the illegitimacy of the
auction. It was pretty funny, I didn’t even know who he was
at first. I thought he was a recent college grad or something,
trying to get a good deal on a camera for an indie. But, after
searching for his name on IMDB I realized I’d been talking
to an established Hollywood writer and producer. Soon, we
were into the discussion of student and indie filmmaking,
and the number 1 thing he emphasized was that while you’re
young, you should try to do all of the personal films you
can possibly make while you can. Because once you get clustered
into the business, you may never get the chance to make that
movie you’d always dreamed of doing while you were young,
and it will haunt you throughout your years. At first, I was
just stubborn, because I wanted to know the secret to making
big movies, but now I’m beginning to see the significance
of his advice. Making personal films helps you realize who
you are as an artist, and as a person, so that when/if you
enter filmmaking as a profession, you do it with an unmistakable
sense of certainty.
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